David D.W. Downey david.downey at
Wed Sep 6 03:47:38 PDT 2000

On Tue, 5 Sep 2000, Mark Stone wrote:

> "How do we attract more developers?"
> Well, I'm really sorry for having been so silent on the LFS/ALFS mailing
> lists for the past two months. And I'm really sorry that VA didn't get its
> act together sooner to hire Gerard. Our loss, I'm afraid. But he's being
> paid to work on LFS, and that's the main thing. Anway, what with the
> preparation and launch at LinuxWorld of both OSDN and BTOS, folks at VA
> have been completely swamped, me included.

I joined OSDN myself, Mark. I was there with Linux Professional Institute
( I spoke quite a bit with Horms who is helping with an issue
on the LVS front. 

> We at VA have been very interested in freeing developers from the shackles
> of distribution-specific Linux. I've hinted at this before, but our big
> effort in this direction is now public: Build-to-Order Software (BTOS). 

Here is where I must admit to see VA Linux joining in on any level with
this project is a gratifying sight. I've worked with numerous companies in
the development of linux and the introduction of linux into the
infrastructure. In all the companies that I've run accross in the Linux IT
world, VA Linux has definitely been there the most when it counted. Please
don't view this as a brown nose comment. There have been countless issues
that I had with your UltraMonkey that Horms replied to. This is something
Red Hat is sorely lacking.

> Disclaimer: I don't work on BTOS, or work with the BTOS guys at VA.
> Nonetheless I think there's tremendous affinity between the goals of ALFS
> and the goals of BTOS. It would be very interesting to compare the
> approaches each is using, and see if either can learn from the other. The
> BTOS approach is discussed at
> although there's a fair amount of marketing hype you'll have to read
> through to get at the technical meat.

Reminds me of Intel tech docs. :-) <ducks>

> So I guess I have a couple things to say about attracting more developers.
> First of all, the general concept here is tremendously appealing. We've
> gotten a great reception from developers, press, and investors to the
> whole BTOS approach. I think if you get the word out about ALFS through
> places like SourceForge and Freshmeat, you'll have a similarly positive
> reaction.
This I can vouch for. I started KiXO Linux with just myself on a laptop
just playing with some ideas. I put it out after I had the basics in place
and folks just kind of flocked to it. Remember that KiXO Linux is born
directly from the 2.3 LFS. We've got 11 or 12 of us working on this
now. All of them are sourceforge members.

David D.W. Downey          Red Hat Certified Engineer   |   Internet Security Specialist            
KiXO Linux        |
Member OSWG, LPI    |    
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