ALFS Limited to LFS Only?

James Robertson jwrober at
Tue Feb 3 17:15:38 PST 2004

Bill's LFS Login wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Michael Kipper wrote:
>>I think that even though the name of this project is Automated Linux From
>>Scratch, it should still encompass the entire LFS project as a whole.
>>That being said, the Beyond Linux From Scratch profiles should be included
>>as well in the main profile download dir.
>>It's a pain to get them on an LFS system, if you have to go out and get the
>>CVS version, which you never know if it's broken or something.
>>I think there should be BLFS profile releases as well.
>>Any thoughts?
> I suspect that the archives contain discussions about this. Off the top
> of my head, I recall that BLFS is not installed "end-to-end", as is LFS.
> This makes generation of "standard" profiles much less useful because
> each user has his own "target" configuration.

Yes correct.  Vassili has been "attempting" to keep the BLFS profiles up
to date, but he is often pulled onto other projects at work and such, so
this makes it difficult.  Also, there is so much change in BLFS on a
day-to-day basis, that one person could really only barely keep up.
Heck, LFS has two profile editors just to keep up.

> IIRC, there is also an issue of complexity (disregarding the above) and
> timeliness because BLFS contains so many more packages and they tend to
> have a very high rate of change and more complex dependencies. Sometimes
> the changes are in dependencies, sometimes in install instructions.
> Having said all that, I don't feel anyone would object if some ambitious
> volunteers generated some profiles for BLFS stuff and contributed them.

The more the merrier, I always say.

> But I would suspect that the regular team members would want to avoid
> this (and I would recommend they avoid it unless we had a lot more team
> members).

nALFS does not do a good job (yet) of dependency control.  This is an
active enhancement request that is "in the works".  I think that Kevin
has been "thinking" on this topic for a bit.  It is going to require
some changes to nALFS code as well as the DTD to make it work right.
This stuff is not easy.


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