[lfs-support] Quality Control System

Ag, D.E Chatzimanikas aga.chatzimanikas at gmail.com
Thu Apr 5 10:36:59 PDT 2018


This is going to be quuuuuiiite lengthy.

On Thu, Apr 05, at 12:38 Νίκος Λαμπόβας wrote:
> On 25 February 2018 at 11:35, Thanos Baloukas <baloukasthan at sch.gr> wrote:
> 
> > On 02/25/2018 10:58 AM, Νίκος Λαμπόβας wrote:
> > Please don't top post
> >
> >> Hello Thano,
[...]

Hi guys,

Why you do that to me?

I'm asking you!!!

How many times I have to interrupt my peaceness? Just tell me.

I just posted this (just before a couple of hours):

http://lists.linuxfromscratch.org/pipermail/blfs-support/2018-April/080025.html

Θάνο: you have no excuse.
Νίκο: I will forgive you (but just for this time) if you are not subscribed
in blfs-support.

But! (please read carefully) (its all about facts)

Facts!!!

Fact number one:
 i have to write my interpreter and i need __fconcentration__

https://github.com/agathoklisx/slang-devel/tree/master/interp/sli_tcc.c

Fact number two:
 i have to write my CC (aka Ci Ci) and i need __fconcentration__

http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/tinycc-devel/2018-04/msg00002.html

(relative to the above)
(do you see the subject of this email? (i'm repeating that for you))

      An experinment for C

Okey, what do you see there? (ok i will tell that for you)

There is a mistake there (a fspelling mistake up there). (the whole
fprogramming world (everybory) can be laughing with me, now!)

Do you like this? (i mean i'm your countryfellow)
Where is your support for your countryfellow?

I send a very very gentle letter to blfs-support, in this beautiful morning
for __EXACTLY_EXACTLY__ the same reason.

(but okey, i'm going to give you some facts) (maybe then you will
understand)

Ok, it was late morning, and i had to goto to take the bus (this morning)
togoto my forest,where we live!

(there are goats there (not so many now than they used to be, but they
need to eat anyway), i have kids (4) to look for them, i have also
to plant plants (its spring now, its a very very very good time to plant)
(and i took a looooot of seeds this morning) (which they should go to
the ground where they belong and they like))

(okey so far?) (ok)

(so i went to get the bus (ohhhh, i almost forgotit)

(and i had to carry heavy bugs in my old shoulders (for at least 1.5 kilometer),
(and these shoulders carried a loooooooooot of weight all these 52
fyears)) (okey so far?) (ok)

so, we had to go to get the bus with my small daughter (which ofcourse
is a joy to walk together (i'm not complaining here))

and we had to go to get the bus, because our car is broken (i mean, it
has no breaks anymore, the right tire is ready to explode, the (how they
fcall it (the machine equipment that goes the petrol (which make the
ffire (to produce the fkinetic energy to the weels)), (i hope i got it
right), so, this is ready to explode!!!) (okey did you got it so far)

(and there are some more (in fact many more, but i have to write for
long-long-long)) (for a matter that i already posted with a very very
gently way)

but i need my ftime also, I NEED my F __fconcentration__ to write my
interpreter. Okey?  (i have this right!!!)

(but i offered my help (did you read the link above?) (no?)
(i will tell that for you)

(i devoted myself to the project)) (and i've said to my friends, that
guys (sorry (but and for reasons (which is not your consern) i don't
build LFS anymore (i run voidlinux))).

(that is what i've said to them)

(but i can moderate the flists (which is my pleasure because i'm a
mailing list lover)) (its all i can do for now)

(of course, we plan with my son (my own son told me this (i never push
my kids to choose for anything)
(ok sometimes (if there is a danger (then i'm there (okey)) (though a
ffather is not only this)) (he should bring food, warm, care ... a lot
of things (like money also (and i don't bring)  (well i've tried (i made
some reaaaaal hard works (but wherenot enough) (we live in a crisis for 10
years now, but it's not the point))))))),

so i was happy when my son told me this! if we will be blessed by god
with generous time, maybe in the summer we'll built LFS!!! (we'll see))

but untill then i can do nothing (but i can moderate the lists!!!)
it's my job (i offered my commitment to my friends)))))

So to summarize.

Did you got it so far? (ok good! (that is a good sign))

but wait, i (f) almost forgot it!

(...  (oh leave it out for now) ...)

so, where we were? Ah!, to the bus!

so i go to get the bus, and it was very very nice (i saw many many many
of my beloved friends (it was Fperfect!!!) (and other perfect things
that happened this morning) (it was a nice boring morning (if you know
what i mean))

so, the bus is one of them that have free wifi. So i asked the driver
who is a friend also, to stole (so to speak) some bytes. And what i see?

First a surprise. I saw a name in my mother language. I got happy. Very
very very happy! Which his name, it was written in my/his father language.

This made me double happy because i like localizations, i like localizations
too much. Unbelievable much!
(except of course with everything that has to do with programming, operating
system messages and technical discussions in the fmaillists! which they should
be written in ENGLISH := FACT)

so, i was happy when I saw in my beloved mutt index view, the message from
Νίκο.

Okey? (did you got it?) (I'm not sure you did) (so i will tell that for you)

That means i still didn't open the femail yet!!!

And i opened it. And what i see? a very nice discussion (i aplaud) with
two very gentle guys that i can bet on them.

But what i see!!!

a fnottrimed message!!!!!

I will tell once more and for all (even to Bruce)

To Bruce:

Do you really really think that i didn't notice that you didn't trimed
your message?

Please reread this femail. (ok i will post it here for you)

________________________________________________________________
On Thu, Apr 05, at 07:08 jens thys wrote:
> Le jeu. 5 avr. 2018 à 07:47, Bruce Dubbs <bruce.dubbs at gmail.com> a écrit :
>> For now, use
>>
>> sed -i '/e_value_block/s/entry->e_value_block != 0 ||//' \
>> convert/source-ext2.c
>>
>> https://github.com/kdave/btrfs-progs/commit/92ffad47b5c78ca119e798505e20f1b5cf7b7d
d8
>>
>> -- Bruce
>>
> Nice job. Thanks.

Nice work guys.

But please next time trim your messages.

Thanks,
________________________________________________________________

Ok what you see?

First it says "guys". (okey?)

then it says "__your messages__"

Ok, i will say it for one last time.

TRIM YOUR FMESSAGES!!!

(okey?) (you got that?)

(i really hope so)

and (i almost forgot)

EDITED:
Last second before send i regreted it. (it was really quite length)

But just to know (i will not tell again the same exact thing)
(i already said that twice)
(is fperfect message!!!!!!) (how many ftimes i must to repeat it)

Please leave it like this!

(now! i have to go the village to send that letter) (its a super nice
village) (but its not close) (i have to walk) (okey this is good (i like to walk))
but the goats have to eat and they complain (i don't flike complained goats (they
get angry and they eat my vegetables)), and i really need to write this
sxxxt code i'm writting (its okey (i don't complain (i like to code)))

but also i have to moderate these lists!!!

Please don't it again.

I cc both support lists, just to make sure that it has received to all (so there
will be no excuses anymore).

Bellow is the ORIGINAL FLETTER from Νίκο, and is a perfect chance to the
uneducated ones to understand for what i'm ftalking about.

If not, I will be here for you (to make sure that you got it) (do not f worry.
I'm playing the fguardian here, I keep (how they called (the sacreds)
(like Dirk do for Lua (i cc him (and if you are in doubt ask him
first)))))))

(as you really really really didn't spend your time around the LFS list in
its first project decade!)

because if you did, then you would understand for what im ftalking about

anyway i'm writting here for the novices.

The LFS lists admitable by all the f open source ecosystem, were some of 
the cruellest lists in the whole open source fecosystem.
(we had some very good examples)
(like Alexander (he was very brutal (i hope he is still like he was)))

(but thats okey)

(so might be wise for your own interest to be more carefull when you post)
(as every thing is recorded in our database)
(like this email)
(which i will carry it forever (what the people of the future will think?))
(do you think is funny?) (no its not!)

(i need to __fconcentrate__, okey?))) (i think i've fup the pair of (),
btw (but its hard to do this when i'm angry))

(and why of all the people in the world they had to be you?)
(my country fellas) (i love you, but you make me angry, and i don't look
very good when i go angry) (i do not want to look that way) (its not
for my best interest)

So, why you did that to me? to your country fella! (i really hope that you
got it this time)

[....]

Ok the last msec before send, i deleted the message from Nicky, as i
don't know if it will be pass (because of the flength)!

But i say this for last time. IT SHOULD BE THE LAST TIME. (not joking)
Otherwise i will ssh in our server and i will destroy any not ftrimed
message from our fdatabase.

Do not make me to do that.

Because i'm geting very passionate with what i'm doing.

I hope you got it. (im not sure though (i'm just hoping))

Bye,

             THE EXPERIMENT

                  or
    _____________________________________________

    how some same things can be said differently.


I left the original mail flow intact; without going back to check for
typos or obvious misunderstandings.

Not that I didn't mean them. I mean i mean them.

But here we have a fact:

Untrimed messages are not practical. Its not about aesthetics only.

Communication in the mailing lists is a very very serious matter and if
used wisely, it can result to a very rapid development and at the same time
accurate. Because it can be seen by many (many :)) experienced or innocent
eyes, that both carry the power of the trueth.

This is our quality control system.

So, do not complain (if it is a repeatable action) when noone (and at some
point in time) will stop to show interest.

And last.

This the LFS way. It always was and it will always be. Our way.

My way, is to communicate with short messages that has relation with the
quoted context. That's why triming is an art, as every little everything
is.

Now, about the experiment :-)

I believe by choosing this method to say the same things differently, we
have some clear obvious advantages. And which can be observed objectively,
by everyone that has the will.

Now, I know they are funny (im laughing laudly many times about my own
things, as i'm a listener too)

But, and this is the most important... but!!!
the funniest thing of all that happened today, its not here.
Because is really really embarassing :-))

If we will be blessed by god one day after years, please someone let me
remind me to speak about that, because that was real funny. Because itsn't 
came from yourself or from another source, but from the fucts :-).
The real real, reaaal facts. :-)

As a reference: every thing has to do with the balance that governs the
creation.

Have a good afternoon, here.
_____________________________________________

but, ... don't do it again :-). Because i get angry. I'm like my one of
my PaPa's. One of them was getting very very very angry when it was
about justice and respect. This same papa (that every one get away from
him when he got angry), was the most dignited person i ever saw in my
whole fucking life (it is this balance we were talking about).

But i'm much worse than him!!! Trust me on this.

Please and because i really ment all of that before, if someone don't trim
her messages, please point him to this email in our database.

Thanks.

Oh sxxxt! I just think i wrote a forbidden word somewhere, but i do not
want to go back now to look (its not permitted by decision (i usually mean
what i say (like one of my papas (he ... but ... better let this story for
another time, because is lengthy),
but its enough to know that i'm getting really really serious with what i
mean) and i really really dont want to be a monk yet!!!

Hopefully, probably you will forgive me this time, but what if i loose
control again?

(I really have to stop to make some statements like thisone in public)

Ok, have a good night. Its been more than 3 hours now that I spend from
my precious time (i will die anyway (and i have to finish some things
first otherwise (according with the Budists we reborn and reborn)))
and i do not want to reborn again (i m fine like this) (but i can not
...)
(oh well!)

(but seriously)
if you donot like this way (is acceptable, but):

  leave me in peace, okey?

or in a more brutal away

  leave me alone (i know that i will be die alone anyway)

(really)

END

(so please trim your messages and do not top post)

and do not (repeat) do not reply in this message! It wasn't meant for
discussion. And do not bother me with personal emails. You will just
make things worse than already it is. Do not make me to waste my time.
Its priceless and i will die one day and i want to spent my time to
things that matters for me. LFS is one of them.

I just get it very seriously (that's all) (you should do the same and
inforce LFS disciplines. (that's all) (i hope you get)
(i will be here for you untill you understand the whole fthing)
(donot make me to fspell forbidden words)
(by the way)
(this is the last time i'm doing this) (its not yet my time to go to
Nepal to search for a holy table where i could live untill i'll die)

Best,
  Αγαθοκλής





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